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May 05, 2009



I've been saying this for years. What really chapped my butt is how they would all show up in SUV's (no carpooling allowed I supposed) for their "green" meetings. SC has been broken for a LONG time!!

Flash G

Nail meet Head of Hammer:

The little guys and gals, the passionates are busting their butts doing amazing things. It's the hierarchical hierarchy that gets in the way, most mean well it's just the fear of change that has literally paralyzed too many major charities.

The one part you didn't say is that the hierarchy is very good at one thing: turning the "passionates" into frustrated complacents. And that is a damn shame.

mike Gibbons

Becky Amen!

Flash - you're right but at least the passionates try their best but yes in the end they get tried of the homogenization and drift away sad!


There are two Sierra Club's the first is the big bureaucratic a staff controlled version. Who contract to marketing houses to produce these types of wasted brochures?

The second is the volunteer and unpaid local groups and chapters. This is entirely volunteer run, and where the least amount of money goes (unfortunately) these are the people in the trenches who do the work locally. Rather then just send in $$ and assume you are helping how about actually going out giving something far more voluble than money, your time! Help the Chapters and groups with a local action. That is where you would get the most bang for the buck.

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